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Rosanna
03-26-2008, 01:58 PM
I just found great deal on some B4 books which gives me all the books except 3- The Quiet Way Home, I am an artist, and Prayer for a Child.... the last two I can find easily, but The Quiet Way Home is either 83.00 or 120 (for what I can see) WAY out of my budget (more than I spent on all my books combined thanks to thrift stores and the like)... it is also not avaliable at my library to borrow- will be trying IIL but to be so close to having a complete set...
Anyone have somewhere else I should check (amazon is where I found the others)?

Hollie in SC
03-26-2008, 02:05 PM
Wait patiently ;) and keep checking Amazon Used Sellers, Half.com, and Ebay each day. I have found a few at library sales as well. It took me several years to finish my collection AND pay the price I wanted to pay. ;) ILL is a great resource while you wait.

Rachel
03-26-2008, 02:06 PM
I'd love to hear about more than one secret source! I have never seen this book but it sounds wonderful and I'd love to get my hands on it. I can't pay $80 for it though!!

AndreaD
03-26-2008, 03:08 PM
I agree with Hollie- wait patiently- and keep checking. They do come up cheaper- but they sell quickly! I'd try ILL in the meantime- but this is truly our favorite B4 title- so don't give up! :D

Holly S
03-26-2008, 06:29 PM
I have a color copy of it as well as the Yellow Ball.

Mechelle in OR
03-31-2008, 04:56 PM
I have a color copy of it as well as the Yellow Ball.

How are you doing the color copy?

One sided? Two sided? Are you having it comb-bound?

Rosanna
03-31-2008, 07:43 PM
Just fyi you are only legally allowed to photocopy 20% of a book for personal use.....

Holly S
04-01-2008, 10:49 AM
How are you doing the color copy?

One sided? Two sided? Are you having it comb-bound?

We did it one-sided, then taped two together so it's two-sided, then had it come-bound. My DH worked at a copy-center at the time, so I got them done really cheap and he did a great job on them.

Holly S
04-01-2008, 10:57 AM
Just fyi you are only legally allowed to photocopy 20% of a book for personal use.....

From what I understood at the time, as an educator, you can have a story copied. I'm not sure if this has changed or how exactly it works with picture books, but I don't see anyone being harmed since the book is OOP and I'd gladly buy it if it ever becomes in print again. I've also heard of several people getting copies made in office supply stores and I think they'd have a pretty good understanding of copyright laws.

Mechelle in OR
04-01-2008, 05:19 PM
From what I understood at the time, as an educator, you can have a story copied. I'm not sure if this has changed or how exactly it works with picture books, but I don't see anyone being harmed since the book is OOP and I'd gladly buy it if it ever becomes in print again. I've also heard of several people getting copies made in office supply stores and I think they'd have a pretty good understanding of copyright laws.


This is really great!
My library has Quiet Way Home. A couple of the other OOP books I can get inter-library-loan (but there is a charge). At 49cents a page for color copies, it still works out better than paying $85 per book. For $85 I'll skip the book!
I hope they are working to revise-update the whole FIAR series with books in print. Or at least with alternate book suggestions.

Thank you!

donnamichelle
04-02-2008, 11:08 PM
Half.com has one for $52...

Not great but better than $85 and up.

This is the best price I have found so far. If I get a better one I will update.

Rosanna
04-03-2008, 04:28 PM
I based the 20% copy a book info off of what my sister told me, when I mentioned doing the same thing (copying the OOP books).

Here is some data I uncovered, on my own...

Out-of-print does not mean you have the right to copy it.


For a book created before January 1, 1978 the work is copyrighted for 28
years with the option of being renewed for an addtional 28 years for a total
of 56 years. If the book's copyright was renewed after January 1, 1978, it
was extended for 75 years. For a book that was created on or before Janurary
1, 1978 the copyright is for the life of the author plus fifty years. This
is the law

MarieD
04-03-2008, 05:30 PM
I based the 20% copy a book info off of what my sister told me, when I mentioned doing the same thing (copying the OOP books).

Here is some data I uncovered, on my own...

Out-of-print does not mean you have the right to copy it.


For a book created before January 1, 1978 the work is copyrighted for 28
years with the option of being renewed for an addtional 28 years for a total
of 56 years. If the book's copyright was renewed after January 1, 1978, it
was extended for 75 years. For a book that was created on or before Janurary
1, 1978 the copyright is for the life of the author plus fifty years. This
is the law

My guess is the only exception would be to get the publisher's permission to copy the book in it's entirety.

Holly S
04-03-2008, 06:18 PM
This is specifically for librarians, but I found it interesting:

A librarian may make up to three copies "solely for the purpose of replacement of a copy...that is damaged, deteriorating, lost or stolen" Section 108 Copyright Act (1976 ) as amended by the Digital Millenium Copyright Act The library must first determine that after "reasonable investigation that copy...cannot be obtained at a fair price" or that the format is obsolete.

Here's the link: http://www.mediafestival.org/copyrightchart.html

I'm not a lawyer, and I don't think the copyright laws are very specific which leaves a lot of guess work about where to draw the line. However, I really don't feel guilty since if it is published, I'd gladly buy another copy, so the only people getting hurt are the ones charging outrageous prices for used books, but I wouldn't buy from them anyway since I refuse to pay more than new prices on a used book.

donnamichelle
04-03-2008, 07:21 PM
Just a thought...

Has any one tried to contact the author???

She has a site... and a blog. :)

I sent an email and told her a little about FIAR and all of us out here loooonging for her book "The Quiet Way Home".

Just in case she decides it might be popular enough to re-print. :lol:

Maybe if she got enough requests she'd consider? :roflol:

MarieD
04-03-2008, 08:03 PM
Just a thought...

Has any one tried to contact the author???

She has a site... and a blog. :)

I sent an email and told her a little about FIAR and all of us out here loooonging for her book "The Quiet Way Home".

Just in case she decides it might be popular enough to re-print. :lol:

Maybe if she got enough requests she'd consider? :roflol:

Yep, Here's (http://www.fiarhq.com/~gbprnhrz/forum/showthread.php?t=23778&highlight=bonnie+Becker) a link to my thread. I also emailed Molly Bang (http://www.fiarhq.com/~gbprnhrz/forum/showthread.php?t=23755&highlight=bonnie+Becker). There were a few other authors that I tried to contact, many didn't have contact info available.

Diane N WY
04-03-2008, 11:13 PM
This is specifically for librarians, but I found it interesting:



Here's the link: http://www.mediafestival.org/copyrightchart.html

I'm not a lawyer, and I don't think the copyright laws are very specific which leaves a lot of guess work about where to draw the line. However, I really don't feel guilty since if it is published, I'd gladly buy another copy, so the only people getting hurt are the ones charging outrageous prices for used books, but I wouldn't buy from them anyway since I refuse to pay more than new prices on a used book.
Holly... I saw that very same chart...I was wondering if I marched into Kinkos if they'd let me copy??? LOL
Then I came across this one
Do NOT use any literary interpretation of copyright law that you read on any website unless it is DATED AT LEAST in the past last 12 months, even this one!
http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/Teachers/copyrightlaw.html
I guess if they let us they let us???LOL

CJ
04-04-2008, 11:06 AM
Quiet Way Home just showed up at eBay. Starting price is .99.
Boy wouldn't it be great to get it for that, lol.

Holly S
04-04-2008, 11:45 AM
Holly... I saw that very same chart...I was wondering if I marched into Kinkos if they'd let me copy??? LOL
Then I came across this one
Do NOT use any literary interpretation of copyright law that you read on any website unless it is DATED AT LEAST in the past last 12 months, even this one!
http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/Teachers/copyrightlaw.html
I guess if they let us they let us???LOL

I guess that's the problem of getting information on the internet. You never know how old something is or how accurate it is. I have heard of people getting copies made in copy stores, but I could also see them turn you away. It probably depends on who's working or their store's policy. :unsure: I know where my DH worked while in school, they often went to the publisher for OOP books to get permission, but they were copying for several students at a time each term, so it was a little different than a one-time thing.

Gwyneth in VA
04-06-2008, 06:21 AM
You have a pm;)